tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12625691.post1445782983920698755..comments2024-02-29T01:43:23.900-05:00Comments on Women's Bioethics Blog: An Open Letter to Future BioethicistsLinda MacDonald Glennhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02378544626277000243noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12625691.post-13435814101181497492010-01-18T09:44:36.157-05:002010-01-18T09:44:36.157-05:00Cool story you got here. I'd like to read a bi...Cool story you got here. I'd like to read a bit more concerning that theme. Thanx for posting this information.<br />Joan Stepsen<br /><a href="http://techpharma-sy.com/" rel="nofollow">Pharma tech</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12625691.post-6074410596846264842009-11-13T08:19:32.450-05:002009-11-13T08:19:32.450-05:00Great blog and this information is very useful to ...Great blog and this information is very useful to everyone.Lap Bandhttp://www.topsurgeons.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12625691.post-56476607704800394462009-10-29T05:13:46.406-04:002009-10-29T05:13:46.406-04:00Great essay-beautifully done, I was actually scare...Great essay-beautifully done, I was actually scared to comment on this after reading it! I really like this, it was a very unique idea that really needed to be touched upon!<br /><br />Great job!<br />fivezull<br /><a href="http://the-onedrop-perfumes.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">One Drop Perfumes</a><br /><a href="http://free-webhosting-services.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">free web hosting services</a>Zulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01130150422585790758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12625691.post-66987515463297691862009-10-22T12:22:15.258-04:002009-10-22T12:22:15.258-04:00This is interesting, Linda, and I'd definitely...This is interesting, Linda, and I'd definitely like to see Dr. Emanuel's full speech. But based off what Art has written in response, it seems to me like this is yet another go-around in the typical argument in bioethics, and particularly medical ethics and hospitals: how do you get the physician to respect the opinion of the non-physician?<br /><br />The answer that Dr. Emanuel appears to be giving is that the only way a budding bioethicist can hope to talk to physicians, hospitals, and policy makers is, if not to become a physician, then to adopt the language and the methods of rigorous scientific discourse. <br /><br />Art, not surprisingly, appears to have taken the position opposite the one that wants to see bioethics as another empirical field. Empirical claims and research are great and good and a wonderful tool, just like the four-box method and casuistry are wonderful tools. <br /><br />But ultimately (and with all due respect), are either titan of the field saying anything that hasn't already been said before? Isn't this just yet another airing of the debate about bioethics and the training that goes into it, and what makes it valuable or less valuable? <br /><br />Perhaps not surprising, given my own background, I strongly agree with Art. If we look at the history of bioethics itself, we see a very interdisciplinary field that grew out of theology, philosophy, sociology, history, medicine, and so forth - a large and diverse group of people, each of whom brought the skills and tools of their trade to bioethics itself, forming the new field. Throwing that all away to focus on empirical studies and training seems to be a return to what bioethics grew out of; what is the point of that?<br /><br />As a student in search of a graduate program to call home, I can attest to the difficulty in finding a program that embraces the interdisciplinary focus that Dr. Caplan advocates. But at the same time, there are not many (any?) programs in the areas that Dr. Emanuel recommends, either, that cater to people interested in bioethics. And speaking from personal experience, I am very aware of what happens if you go into a non-bioethics focused program with an interest in bioethics (note that I am in search of a new graduate program, if the conclusion there is not clear).<br /><br />Right now there seems to be a gap between people who had a chance to become bioethicists through their interests after their academic training, and who have defined the field as it is now, and people who want to join that field. Those of us on this side of the line, who would very much like to contribute, could certainly use a bit clearer a path to follow. What worked in the past isn't working now, but there doesn't seem to be any new academic path yet available. And I don't know if this is a reflection of the fact that it's near-impossible to receive funding if you're not doing empirical science, or a greater disconnect within the field itself and the academic community.Kelly Hillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027400439081662699noreply@blogger.com